{"id":2379,"date":"2013-04-10T20:04:00","date_gmt":"2013-04-10T20:04:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/onlygunsandmoney.com\/2013\/04\/10\/goa-to-manchin-and-toomey-hell-no\/"},"modified":"2019-08-16T18:21:36","modified_gmt":"2019-08-16T18:21:36","slug":"goa-to-manchin-and-toomey-hell-no","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/onlygunsandmoney.com\/?p=2379","title":{"rendered":"GOA To Manchin and Toomey &#8211; Hell No!"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class='__iawmlf-post-loop-links' style='display:none;' data-iawmlf-post-links='[{&quot;id&quot;:13772,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http:\\\/\\\/www.gunowners.org\\\/a04102013.htm&quot;,&quot;archived_href&quot;:&quot;https:\\\/\\\/web-wp.archive.org\\\/web\\\/20170612204234\\\/https:\\\/\\\/gunowners.org\\\/a04102013.htm&quot;,&quot;redirect_href&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;checks&quot;:[{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-19 21:43:05&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:206}],&quot;broken&quot;:false,&quot;last_checked&quot;:{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-19 21:43:05&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:206},&quot;process&quot;:&quot;done&quot;},{&quot;id&quot;:13773,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http:\\\/\\\/www.capwiz.com\\\/gunowners\\\/issues\\\/alert\\\/?alertid=62580936&quot;,&quot;archived_href&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;redirect_href&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;checks&quot;:[],&quot;broken&quot;:false,&quot;last_checked&quot;:null,&quot;process&quot;:&quot;done&quot;}]'><\/div>\n<p>\nThe Gun Owners of America was even less kind to Senators Joe Manchin (D-WV) and Pat Toomey (R-PA) than the NRA-ILA. They called it a sellout that was worse than the &#8220;Feinstein gun ban&#8221;. I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;d agree on that but it most certainly is not the panacea envisioned by the good senators.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.gunowners.org\/a04102013.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">GOA is calling the bill the &#8220;See a Shrink, Lose your Guns&#8221; bill<\/a>. Their release is below:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"tr_bq\"><p>\n<br \/>\n<i>Urgent action required. It is urgent that every gun owner call their Senators today and demand that they oppose the \u201cSee a Shrink, Lose your Guns\u201d sell-out bill that is being authored by Senators Pat Toomey (R) and Joe Manchin (D) &#8211; but which also has Chuck Schumer\u2019s fingerprints all over it. Call immediately at 202-224-3121. <\/p>\n<p>See a Shrink, Lose your Guns. The anti-gun &#8220;ranters&#8221; have spent the last week telling us that Republican Senators can\u2019t filibuster Harry Reid\u2019s gun control bill; that they can\u2019t cut off debate to a bill they haven\u2019t seen yet. \u201cLet the bill come up,\u201d they say. \u201cWe need to see the bill\u201d before Senators can vote against cloture to proceed to it.<\/p>\n<p>Well, we\u2019ve seen the Toomey-Manchin-Schumer sell-out, and it\u2019s worse than the Feinstein gun ban, which will reportedly be tied to it and offered simultaneously in a Senate procedure known as an \u201camendment tree.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Toomey and Manchin will claim that their bill only covers \u201cgun show sales\u201d and Internet sales. But if you\u2019ve ever talked about your gun and \/or let it be known you\u2019d like to sell or buy a gun on the Internet, this language covers you. If you advertise your gun in the church bulletin and the bulletin is put on the Internet, you\u2019re covered.<\/p>\n<p>The only exemption is for sales that are sold exclusively by word of mouth. The increased number of background checks would likely exacerbate the system breakdowns (inherent to NICS) which have shut down gun shows over and over again. It would mean that Americans who were illegally denied firearms because their names were similar to other people&#8217;s would effectively be barred from owning a gun. (We would never tolerate such delays for voting rights or other freedoms that we are guaranteed.)<\/p>\n<p>And for those Republicans who think they\u2019re going to be able to offer their useless amendments, guess what? Reid is reportedly going to use a procedure to block out all amendments (called an \u201camendment tree\u201d). And there are plenty of Senators standing in line to make sure that the Senate doesn\u2019t give \u201cunanimous consent\u201d to let those Republicans offer their amendments.<\/p>\n<p>So if you live in a rural area, you\u2019re effectively barred from selling or buying a gun &#8211; or it at least becomes very, very difficult.<\/p>\n<p>Incidentally, the Toomey-Manchin-Schumer \u201cnational registry\u201d language is full of holes. There will be a national gun registry as a result of this sell-out.<\/p>\n<p>But that\u2019s not the worst part. Under an amendment in the bill to HIPAA (Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act), you could have your guns taken away because your private shrink thinks you\u2019re \u201cdangerous\u201d and could send your name directly to the FBI Instant Check system.<\/p>\n<p>Did you think it was terrible that 150,000 military veterans had been added into the NICS system because they\u2019d seen a VA shrink about their PTSD? Well guess what? Now it\u2019s going to happen to the rest of the population &#8230; by the millions!<\/p>\n<p>And the next step, of course, will be to begin to sue psychiatrists that don\u2019t send every single patient\u2019s name to the Instant Check system, and to make sure that their lives are ruined if they don\u2019t send a patient to NICS and anything goes wrong.<\/p>\n<p>The bottom line: \u201cSee a shrink; lose your guns.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>All of this will reportedly be on an amendment tree with the Feinstein gun ban and magazine bans.<\/p>\n<p>Repeal of gun owner protections. In addition, Toomey no doubt unintentionally agreed to repeal one of the most important protections for gun owners that was included in the 1986 McClure-Volkmer Act &#8211; the provision that would allow you to take an unloaded, locked-up gun through states like New York without being stopped. Under a new subsection (c), the Toomey-Manchin-Schumer bill would require you to \u201cdemonstrate\u201d to the satisfaction of New York police where you were coming from and where you are going to. And, if you don\u2019t do that to their satisfaction, they can arrest you.<\/p>\n<p>Please keep in mind, nothing in this bill would have stopped Newtown dirtbag from killing his mother and taking the firearms that she owned and perpetrating the horrible crimes that he committed.<\/p>\n<p>Nothing is this bill would actually make children safer at schools. There is nothing that will actually keep bad guys from stealing or illegally acquiring guns, but there\u2019s plenty that will threaten our gun rights!<\/p>\n<p>ACTION: Contact your two senators immediately. Tell them the \u201csee a shrink; lose your guns\u201d sellout is even worse than the Feinstein gun ban which will reportedly be on the same amendment tree with it. Distribute this alert far and wide.<\/p>\n<p>Time is short, so if you call &#8211; at 202-224-3121 &#8211; you may click below to see the pre-written letter and use the contents to help direct your comments.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.capwiz.com\/gunowners\/issues\/alert\/?alertid=62580936\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Click here to send your Senators a prewritten email message.<\/a><\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<div style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;\" class=\"sharethis-inline-share-buttons\" ><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Gun Owners of America was even less kind to Senators Joe Manchin (D-WV) and Pat Toomey (R-PA) than&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"iawp_total_views":2,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[2126,864,701,2041],"class_list":["post-2379","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-background-checks","tag-goa","tag-sen-joe-manchin","tag-sen-pat-toomey"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/onlygunsandmoney.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2379","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/onlygunsandmoney.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/onlygunsandmoney.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/onlygunsandmoney.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/onlygunsandmoney.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=2379"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/onlygunsandmoney.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2379\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":9043,"href":"https:\/\/onlygunsandmoney.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2379\/revisions\/9043"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/onlygunsandmoney.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=2379"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/onlygunsandmoney.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=2379"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/onlygunsandmoney.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=2379"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}