{"id":739,"date":"2017-04-12T16:36:00","date_gmt":"2017-04-12T16:36:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/onlygunsandmoney.com\/2017\/04\/12\/the-difference-between-stupid-and\/"},"modified":"2019-08-16T18:27:38","modified_gmt":"2019-08-16T18:27:38","slug":"the-difference-between-stupid-and","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/onlygunsandmoney.com\/?p=739","title":{"rendered":"The Difference Between Stupid And Really Stupid"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class='__iawmlf-post-loop-links' style='display:none;' data-iawmlf-post-links='[{&quot;id&quot;:8608,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https:\\\/\\\/oversight.house.gov\\\/hearing\\\/reviewing-atfs-failures-death-ice-agent-jaime-zapata&quot;,&quot;archived_href&quot;:&quot;https:\\\/\\\/web-wp.archive.org\\\/web\\\/20260209091843\\\/https:\\\/\\\/oversight.house.gov\\\/hearing\\\/reviewing-atfs-failures-death-ice-agent-jaime-zapata\\\/&quot;,&quot;redirect_href&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;checks&quot;:[{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-18 07:12:50&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:200}],&quot;broken&quot;:false,&quot;last_checked&quot;:{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-18 07:12:50&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:200},&quot;process&quot;:&quot;done&quot;},{&quot;id&quot;:8609,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http:\\\/\\\/www.foxnews.com\\\/politics\\\/2017\\\/03\\\/09\\\/chaffetz-subpoenas-atf-agents-who-skipped-hearing-on-death-ice-officer.html&quot;,&quot;archived_href&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;redirect_href&quot;:&quot;https:\\\/\\\/www.foxnews.com\\\/politics\\\/2017\\\/03\\\/09\\\/chaffetz-subpoenas-atf-agents-who-skipped-hearing-on-death-ice-officer.html&quot;,&quot;checks&quot;:[],&quot;broken&quot;:false,&quot;last_checked&quot;:null,&quot;process&quot;:&quot;done&quot;},{&quot;id&quot;:8610,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https:\\\/\\\/oversight.house.gov\\\/hearing\\\/use-confidential-informants-atf-dea&quot;,&quot;archived_href&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;redirect_href&quot;:&quot;https:\\\/\\\/oversight.house.gov\\\/hearing\\\/use-confidential-informants-atf-dea\\\/&quot;,&quot;checks&quot;:[],&quot;broken&quot;:false,&quot;last_checked&quot;:null,&quot;process&quot;:&quot;done&quot;},{&quot;id&quot;:8611,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https:\\\/\\\/www.atf.gov\\\/about\\\/executive-staff&quot;,&quot;archived_href&quot;:&quot;https:\\\/\\\/web-wp.archive.org\\\/web\\\/20190414165851\\\/https:\\\/\\\/www.atf.gov\\\/about\\\/executive-staff&quot;,&quot;redirect_href&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;checks&quot;:[{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-18 07:13:23&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:403}],&quot;broken&quot;:false,&quot;last_checked&quot;:{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-18 07:13:23&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:403},&quot;process&quot;:&quot;done&quot;},{&quot;id&quot;:8612,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http:\\\/\\\/military.maryland.gov\\\/NG\\\/Pages\\\/Chief-of-Staff-Air.aspx&quot;,&quot;archived_href&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;redirect_href&quot;:&quot;https:\\\/\\\/military.maryland.gov\\\/NG\\\/Pages\\\/Chief-of-Staff-Air.aspx&quot;,&quot;checks&quot;:[],&quot;broken&quot;:false,&quot;last_checked&quot;:null,&quot;process&quot;:&quot;done&quot;},{&quot;id&quot;:8613,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https:\\\/\\\/www.washingtonpost.com\\\/world\\\/national-security\\\/senior-atf-official-proposes-loosening-gun-regulations\\\/2017\\\/02\\\/06\\\/beeb1120-ec7c-11e6-9662-6eedf1627882_story.html&quot;,&quot;archived_href&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;redirect_href&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;checks&quot;:[],&quot;broken&quot;:false,&quot;last_checked&quot;:null,&quot;process&quot;:&quot;done&quot;},{&quot;id&quot;:8614,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http:\\\/\\\/cleanupatf.org\\\/forums\\\/index.php?\\\/topic\\\/81-grapevine\\\/?p=6955&quot;,&quot;archived_href&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;redirect_href&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;checks&quot;:[],&quot;broken&quot;:false,&quot;last_checked&quot;:null,&quot;process&quot;:&quot;done&quot;}]'><\/div>\n<p>\nStupid is blowing off a &#8220;request&#8221; to appear before the House Oversight and Government Affairs Committee. The committee <a href=\"https:\/\/oversight.house.gov\/hearing\/reviewing-atfs-failures-death-ice-agent-jaime-zapata\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">was investigating the death of a Federal law enforcement officer<\/a>, ICE&#8217;s Jaime Zapata, by Mexican cartel members using firearms BATFE allowed to be &#8220;walked&#8221; to Mexico.<\/p>\n<p>This is what BATFE&#8217;s Associate Deputy Director Ronald B. &#8220;Ron&#8221; Turk did on Thursday, March 9th. In response, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/politics\/2017\/03\/09\/chaffetz-subpoenas-atf-agents-who-skipped-hearing-on-death-ice-officer.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the committee chairman, Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-UT), issued a subpoena<\/a> for Mr. Turk.<\/p>\n<p>Now that was stupid. Really stupid is what happens next.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/oversight.house.gov\/hearing\/use-confidential-informants-atf-dea\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Turk did finally appear on April 4th at another House Oversight hearing<\/a> at which his earlier absence was noted. After getting into it with Rep. Chaffetz about why he didn&#8217;t appear when &#8220;invited&#8221;, Turk made this accusation as he really starts to go off: &#8220;You want to get your 15 seconds of YouTube minute time to challenge my honor.&#8221; You can see this starting at 4:56 in the attached YouTube video.<\/p>\n<p>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" allowfullscreen=\"\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"315\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/_JmNG5JfJvk?ecver=1\" width=\"560\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>It takes Rep. Chaffetz another minute or so of questioning before he really lights into Turk for blowing off the committee and for his YouTube comment. That starts at 7:12 and runs until about 8:04. At this point Turk realizes that he has screwed up and starts to grovel for the remainder of the time.<\/p>\n<p>Bear in mind that Turk is not only <a href=\"https:\/\/www.atf.gov\/about\/executive-staff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the number two person at BATFE<\/a> but he is also a Brigadier General in the <a href=\"http:\/\/military.maryland.gov\/NG\/Pages\/Chief-of-Staff-Air.aspx\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Maryland Air Nation Guard where he serves as Chief of Staff<\/a>. He didn&#8217;t get to those two positions by being a good street agent or a good airman. He got there by being a good politician and a good politician should know when to shut up. That he had that lapse of judgement was a bit surprising given the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/world\/national-security\/senior-atf-official-proposes-loosening-gun-regulations\/2017\/02\/06\/beeb1120-ec7c-11e6-9662-6eedf1627882_story.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">political astuteness of his leaked white paper<\/a>. It was really stupid on his part and cements the impression that BATFE is out of control.<\/p>\n<p>H\/T <a href=\"http:\/\/cleanupatf.org\/forums\/index.php?\/topic\/81-grapevine\/?p=6955\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">CleanUpAtf.org<\/a><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;\" class=\"sharethis-inline-share-buttons\" ><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Stupid is blowing off a &#8220;request&#8221; to appear before the House Oversight and Government Affairs Committee. 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