by I thought it might be easier for people to listen to the podcast episode in question if I just embedded it here.
As I said in my post yesterday, listening to both Dezarae Payne and Michael Schwartz describe how Paul Payne worked to rig elections at the direction of Wayne LaPierre is much more forceful than anything I could write about it.
The key thing to remember about both of these people – they are not anti-gunners but rather advocates for the Second Amendment who are still active in the fight for gun rights in California. Schwartz is the executive director of San Diego County Gun Owners and Ms. Payne is with Riverside County Gun Owners.
