HB 650 Passes 2nd Reading In NC House But With Amendments

The North Carolina State House passed HB 650 which amends various firearms laws and includes the Castle Doctrine on the 2nd Reading. There is no report of the actual vote totals yet on the North Carolina General Assembly website or if it was even a roll-call vote. The bill will now go for its 3rd and final Reading before it is sent to the State Senate.

Unfortunately, the bill did not pass unscathed. There were three amendments to the bill that were considered and passed before the bill passed its 2nd Reading.

Amendment 1 was sponsored by Rep. Mark Hilton (R-Catawba) who was one of the primary sponsors of HB 650. This amendment seems to be merely clarifying language which doesn’t weaken the bill. This amendment was adopted unanimously.

Amendment 2 was also sponsored by Rep. Hilton and it slightly weakened the protections given to those who use defensive force. The presumption remains that a person had a reasonable fear of death or severe bodily injury and was justified in using defensive force if someone was illegally and forcefully attempting to enter a motor vehicle, home, or workplace and if the person using the defensive force had reason to believe that the attacker or entrant was doing so illegally. However, this presumption is now rebuttable in all cases. Previously, only the presumption for using defensive force in a motor vehicle or workplace was rebuttable. In essence, law enforcement and prosecutors can now try to impeach your story if you use defensive force to protect your home as well as your car and place of business. This amendment passed 112 to 3.

Amendment 3 was sponsored by freshman Rep. Chuck McGrady (R-Henderson). This amendment which passed 59-57 deletes the section of the bill that prohibited employers from banning storage of a firearm in a locked vehicle and the section that stated the carrying of a handgun by those with handgun permits when allowed by the business, commercial enterprise, property owner, or employer did not constitute an occupation safety and health hazard. Thus employers still can force their employees to be at risk on their way to work and the Federal agency OSHA can still harass businesses or property owners who recognize the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms.

I don’t have the vote breakdown on Amendment 3 but I am making the presumption that it was a coalition of wobbly Republicans and anti-gun Democrats who provided the bare majority for this amendment to pass. I am guessing the rationale given by the Republicans will be that they were respecting property rights and the Democrats that a gun near the workplace will cause a worker to go “postal”.   If I am incorrect on this once the roll-call vote becomes available, I will make the correction. However, I doubt that I am wrong.

I will be emailing Mr. McGrady tonight to see if I can get an explanation for his actions.

UPDATE:  That was quick. I have gotten a response from Rep. McGrady and I was correct – the rationale was “property rights”. His response is below.

Chuck: I offered the amendment because I felt that the bill, as drafted, infringed upon private property rights. I think the vote count reflects the fact that these are hard issues when one has to balance one person’s rights against another person’s rights. Thanks for your question.

I have sent a response back to him asking for more detail as Section 27 seems to me to give private property owners more – not less – protection by protecting them from claims that they are allowing an occupational safety and health hazard when they allow handgun permit holders to carry on the property.

UPDATE II: WRAL-TV is reporting by Twitter that the vote on the 2nd Reading was 77 Ayes to 38 Nays.

WRAL also reported that the bill’s sponsor Rep. Mark Hilton (R-Catawba) and Rep. Paul Stam (R-Wake), House Majority Leader clashed over property rights versus gun rights on the House floor. Stam, who has stood in the way of more expansive gun rights legislation, reportedly said “land property rights predate gun rights.”

Official Notice Of House Oversight Committee Hearing

The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee just posted their official notice of the hearing into Operation Fast and Furious. It will be a full committee meeting and is schedule for 2 hours on the afternoon of June 13th.

Full House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform Hearing

Date: Monday, June 13, 2011
Duration: 2 Hours
Contact Info: (202) 225-5074

The Full Committee hearing entitled, “Obstruction of Justice: Does the Justice Department Have to Respond to a Lawfully Issued and Valid Congressional Subpoena?” will take place at 1:00pm on Monday, June 13th in room 2154 of Rayburn House Office Building.

The hearing will be streamed live at http://oversight.house.gov

I have to work that day but I definitely plan to watch as much of it as possible as it streams live.

UPDATE:
The Oversight Committee has released a notice that includes the witness list. The main purpose of this hearing is to establish the constitutional framework for issuing subpoenas to the Executive Branch. The time has been pushed back to 1:30pm EDT from the 1pm previously reported.

Operation Fast and Furious Hearing to be Held June 13th

Title: Obstruction of Justice: Does the Justice Department Have to Respond to a Lawfully Issued and Valid Congressional Subpoena?

Date/Time: 1:30 p.m. on Monday June 13th

Location: 2154 Rayburn House Office Building

This hearing will examine the constitutional questions raised by both the Department of Justice’s refusal to comply with a Congressional subpoena as well as the withholding of documents from a Congressional subpoena. It is the first in a series of hearings on Operation Fast and Furious.

The following witnesses are currently slated to appear at the hearing. Testimony will be posted online as it becomes available. The hearing will be webcast live at Oversight.House.Gov.

Witnesses

• Professor Charles Tiefer, Commissioner, Commission on Wartime Contracting

Professor Tiefer was chief litigator for the House of Representatives and was a courtroom advocate in numerous major cases. He served in 1996 as deputy minority counsel of the U.S. House “Bosniagate” investigating sub-committee and in 1987 as the Special Deputy Chief Counsel for the House Iran-Contra Committee. Professor Tiefer has had extensive immersion in investigative processes on diverse issues, including oversight investigations of foreign affairs and government contracting. He was appointed to his current role by Senator Harry Reid.

• Mr. Morton Rosenberg, Former Specialist in American Public Law with the American Law Division of the Congressional Research Service, Library of Congress.

Mr. Rosenberg specialized in the areas of constitutional law, administrative law and process, congressional practice and procedure, and labor law, and in the problems raised by the interface of Congress and the Executive which involve the scope of the congressional oversight and investigative prerogatives, the validity of claims of executive and common law privileges before committees, and issues raised by the presidential exercise of temporary and recess appointment power.

• Mr. Todd Tatelman, Legislative Attorney, Congressional Research Service’s American Law Division

Mr. Tatelman specializes and advises Members of Congress, Committees, and Staff in the areas of Congressional Laws and Procedure (oversight and investigations), Constitutional Law, Transportation Law, and International Trade Law.

Winning

KCRA Television reports that concealed carry permits are up dramatically in Sacramento, California. According to reporter Danielle Leigh, the Sacramento County Sheriff’s Office has approved more concealed carry permits this year than in the history of the department. While neither she nor the spokesman for the Sheriff’s Office mention it, this is directly attributable to the agreement reached by the Second Amendment Foundation and the CalGuns Foundation with the Sheriff’s Department where “self-defense” is now recognized as showing “good cause”.

The reporter asks the Sheriff’s Department spokesman whether the rise in CCW permits means things are “out of control” and he replies, “I don’t think so.”

There is the obligatory interview with a Brady Campaign representative. Rebecca Gonzales says she is afraid that “gun violence” will go up. The response from the Sheriff’s Department spokesman is that they have never had anyone shot by a  CCW holder and that he hopes that trend continues.

Click on the link below to watch the video report.

Concealed Weapons Permits Up In Sacramento – Video – KCRA Sacramento

H/T Josh

GRNC On HB 111 – Guns In Restaurants And Parks

Grass Roots North Carolina issued a member alert this evening on HB 111 which would allow concealed carry in restaurants and eating places that serve alcohol and would allow concealed carry in state, county, and municipal parks. This bill has passed the State House and is now in committee in the State Senate. While it has met the crossover deadline, it would be nice if it were passed before the General Assembly adjourns for this session.

Haven’t You Waited Long Enough?

HB 111, the long-awaited Parks and Restaurants bill, is currently awaiting action in the Senate Judiciary II Committee. You, the gun owning public, have been patient. Now, it seems that you have waited long enough. The NC House has done its part in moving this vital bill forward. It is time for the Senate to do its part. Raise your voices and tell them you want action before the Senate adjourns.

Permit-Holders Proven Responsible

According to the NC State Bureau of Investigation, 336,743 concealed handgun permits have been approved, yet only 1007 (0.29% — less than 1/3 of a single percent) have been revoked for any reason, with most revocations unrelated to guns.

Although the SBI doesn’t track reasons for revocation, evidence from elsewhere suggests the vast majority of revocations are for reasons unrelated to guns. In Florida, for example, where 1,935,222 permits were issued, only 168 (.009%) were revoked due to misuse of firearms.

As in the 37 other states with concealed handgun laws, North Carolina permit-holders have a 16 year track record of proving themselves sane, sober and law-abiding.

“Wild west” predictions of “shootings at traffic lights” by the law’s opponents have proven false in North Carolina as in all of the 37 states which have adopted such laws.

Why Parks?

State parks: Although violent crime overall has dropped by 27.7% since inception of concealed carry, ostensibly “gun free” state parks have not benefited from the deterrence effect of the law, experiencing only an estimated drop of 8.93%, including an estimated 72 violent crimes and 1278 property crimes.

Municipal parks: Violent crime rates for municipal parks are not tracked by the State Bureau of Investigation, but urban settings and frequent news reports of rapes, murders and assaults suggests a much higher rate and number of violent crimes, perhaps numbering in the thousands.

Deterrence effect: Controlled, multi-variate studies of concealed handgun permit laws around the country show they deter murder, rape and aggravated assault.

Net benefit: Beyond allowing joggers, hikers and families enjoying North Carolina’s state and municipal parks to protect themselves against violent predators, HB 111 is likely to create a drop in crime by deterring criminals who search for unarmed victims.

Why Restaurants?

Restaurant carry is not untested: Even The New York Times admits that at least 39 states (by some counts, 40 states) permit concealed carry in restaurants.

Even a simple buffet restaurant is off limits to concealed carry if it has an on-premises alcohol consumption permit. When concealed handgun permit-holders go to such restaurants, they and their families are unprotected not only there but also in surrounding neighborhoods and parking lots.

Nothing would change the current prohibition on consuming alcohol while carrying concealed firearms contained in § 14-415.11 (c).

Restaurant owners would still have the option of posting against firearms under § 14-415.11 (c).

The North Carolina Restaurant & Lodging Association (NCRLA) has said that it does not oppose the bill.

GRNC strongly advises you to oppose the “Guice Amendment,” made in the House, under which municipalities could ban firearms in recreational facilities. Those facilities are precisely where permit-holders most need to protect family members.

Both Virginia (4/10) and Tennessee (6/10) have adopted restaurant carry without reported problems.

IMMEDIATE ACTION REQUIRED

Contact

Contact the members of the Senate Leadership (listed following the message).
Deliver this message:

Dear Senator:

I am writing you to let you know that HB 111, “Handgun Permit Valid in Parks & Restaurants,” is a priority. It is time for you to act. The NC House has done their part and now it is time for you to do yours. NC Republicans were elected for a reason. Act now to push HB 111 forward.

I urge you support and pass this important bill. I will be monitoring the progress of HB 111 and your actions on this matter through the alerts of Grass Roots North Carolina.

Sincerely,

A Concerned North Carolina Voter

Contact these legislators:

Full Contact Info:

Sen. Phil Berger
16 W. Jones Street, Room 2008
Raleigh, NC 27601-2808
(919) 733-5708
Phil.Berger@ncleg.net

Sen. Tom Apodaca
16 W. Jones Street, Room 2010
Raleigh, NC 27601-2808
(919) 733-5745
Tom.Apodaca@ncleg.net

Senator Austin M. Allran
300 N. Salisbury Street, Room 625
Raleigh, NC 27603-5925
(919) 733-5876
Austin.Allran@ncleg.net

Senator Warren Daniel
300 N. Salisbury Street, Room 411
Raleigh, NC 27603-5925
(919) 715-7823
Warren.Daniel@ncleg.net

Senator E. S. (Buck) Newton
300 N. Salisbury Street, Room 410
Raleigh, NC 27603-5925
(919) 715-3030
Buck.Newton@ncleg.net

HB 650 – Up For Vote In NC House Tomorrow

The amended HB 650 is calendared for its 2nd and 3rd Readings in the North Carolina State House tomorrow. If it passes, it will beat the crossover deadline of June 9th.

The amended bill includes various amendments to North Carolina’s gun laws plus the Castle Doctrine which was added to the 2nd Edition of HB 650.

Sean at An NC Gun Blog has an in-depth study of each section of the original bill here.

UPDATE: A brief outline of the changes in the bill from the original to the bill up for a vote. Firearms during emergencies has been dropped from the bill and castle doctrine added. Thanks to Sean Sorrentino for outlining the changes.

section 1-3 Castle bill
4- retains wording that says you can have a gun on campus if locked in your vehicle
5 = old section 2
6 = 3
7 = 4
8 is HUGE, rewrites the stupid Mass Death and Destruction law. Now you can own if you own in compliance w/ federal law!
9 more changes to Mass Death and Destruction
10 clarifies law allowing police officers to buy pistols w/out permits.
11 is an Anti-Bloomburg sting law
12 buy long guns out of state
13 parking lot law
14 = old section 9
15 only have to notify officer if he is in the performance of his official duties
16 = old section 10
17 = old section 12
18 = old section 13
19 = old section 14
20 = old section 15
21 = old section 16
22 = old section 17
23 lowers the punishment for not carrying CHP card to an infraction – old section 18 just repealed the punishment entirely
24 = old section 19
25 = old section 20
26 = clarifies that ban on gun ownership and possession during protective order is only in effect if so ordered by court
27 says that guns in places of business is not an OSHA violation and that the Atty General must intervene to protect private owners against OSHA
28 = old section 21
29 says everything starts on DEC 1.

June’s Gun Contests

Aaron at the Weapon-Blog has just posted his list of gun contests for the month. This looks to be a really good month for contests with a Sig 220, a couple of Smith and Wessons, a Glock 20 and a Nighthawk 1911in the handgun category. The rifle category has some really cool stuff including a SCAR 16, a LaRue Tactical AR-15, and a Kriss Vector. Having shot the Kriss, I can tell you it is a really cool gun.

Make sure to thank Aaron for this great service he does on a monthly basis.

12th Straight Month-Over-Month Increase In Firearms Sales

The National Shooting Sports Foundation released their adjusted NICS data for May 2011 today. There was an 11.4% increase in NICS checks for May 2011 over May 2010. For the month, there were 696,947 checks as opposed to 625,763 for the prior May.

This is the 12th straight month with increases over the same month in the prior year.

NSSF adjust the NICS figures to account for states like Utah, Kentucky, and Iowa which use the NICS database for CCW application checks. Though there isn’t a direct correlation with firearms sales, NSSF says “the NSSF-adjusted NICS data provide a more accurate picture of current market conditions.”

The raw numbers can be found at the NICS website here.

Eric Holder’s New Favorite Song

I think Attorney General Eric Holder will have a new favorite song come next Monday around  1pm. It will be The Carpenters’ “Rainy Days and Mondays” which has this lyric in the fourth stanza:

No need to talk it out

We know what its all about

Hanging around, nothing to do but frown

Rainy days and Mondays always get me down

Dave Workman reports this afternoon that his Congressional sources have confirmed the the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee chaired by Rep. Darrell Issa will hold the first of a series of hearings into Operation Fast and Furious (aka Project Gunwalker) on Monday, June 13th. The hearing will begin at 1pm in Room 2154 of the Rayburn Office Building.

According to congressional sources, the first hearing will focus on the Justice Department’s lack of cooperation with Issa’s investigation and with the agency’s limited compliance with Issa’s subpoena for several documents. The official title for the hearing is “Obstruction of Justice: Does the Justice Department have to respond to a lawfully issued and valid Congressional Subpoena?”

If you will be in the D.C. area next Monday and have the time to attend this hearing, I’d suggest doing so. I’m sure it will be worth your time.

Mike Vanderboegh in Sipsey Street Irregulars reported earlier today on the subjects of the series of hearings. According to his sources, the hearings will have three phases. From what Mike reports, it looks like the Committee is building a case for a Special Prosecutor phase by phase.

Phase I will be “the presentation of allegations and factual information, evidence, and intended direction of the continuing investigation.” This will include documents already presented to Senaqtor Grassley and Congressman Issa by whistleblower ATF agents. Senator Grassley will be among the first witnesses before Issa’s panel. Family members of Project Gunwalker victims are expected to testify, as well as other witnesses with first-hand knowledge of the conspiracy whose knowledge runs from Arizona to DC.

Phase II, according to my sources, “will focus on Mexico issues with witnesses called who have first hand Mexico information.”

Phase III will be when it really gets interesting, when all the big names in ATF and DOJ complicit in this scandal who have been uncovered in the previous two phases are called to explain themselves. One source characterized this as “the testimony of compromised participants to include the numerous ATF and DOJ employees with dirt, blood or both on their hands.”

This reminds me of the old Chinese curse – “May you live in interesting times.” I think we are about to see some very interesting times for certain people in the ATF and DOJ.

UPDATE: Sharyl Attkisson of CBS News has also reported that the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee has scheduled hearings for next Monday.

UPDATE II: The Hill has an article on the upcoming hearings and notes that that there will be a slew of subpoenas served.

The subpoenas, which Issa said will be issued to key Washington-based government officials with ties to the operation, are slated to serve as a launching pad for a new series of hearings on the matter.

As Scott said in the comments, get the popcorn ready.

Funding Gun Rights Groups

Thanks to a tweet from our good friends at CSGV, I found a way to send money to the Second Amendment Foundation. I’m sure that wasn’t their intention but it works just the same. They tweeted:

@CSGV
Buying a #Groupon today through#Goodsearch = a 10% donation for gun violence prevention (cause is Educational Fund… http://fb.me/GNlplxh7

They link to a page called GoodSearch. If you search the Web or shop through them, participating non-profits get a donation. Of course, CSGV wants you to name their sister group, the (so-called) Educational Fund to Stop Gun Violence. However, a quick search turns up the Second Amendment Foundation as a participating group.

So now you can help fund more lawsuits against anti-gun governments and laws by using this page. Isn’t it fun to turn the tables on the gun prohibitionists?