Judge Allows Motion On Supplemental Deposition Of Willes Lee

I was alerted a few minutes ago by an email from the blog NRA In Danger that Judge Cohen had granted the NY AG’s “motion to compel a post-note of issue, supplemental deposition” of Willes Lee. In doing so, he rejected the arguments put forth by the NRA and Lee.

The meat of Judge Cohen’s order is this:

Here, Mr. Lee’s post-NOI public statements, resignation from the SLC, and removal from NRA leadership are “unusual or unanticipated circumstances” that warrant a “brief and targeted” (NYSCEF 2205 [OAG Reply Brief at 12]) supplemental deposition (Esteva v Catsimatidis, 4 AD3d 210, 211 [1st Dept 2004]). Contrary to the NRA’s argument, in these circumstances the OAG’s ability to cross-examine Mr. Lee at trial is not a sufficient replacement for pre-trial discovery. Further, there is no assurance that Mr. Lee will testify at trial, thus potentially locking in his initial deposition testimony without the opportunity to further question the witness based on subsequent events.

He also found that the potential prejudice to the NYAG’s Office outweighed any potential prejudice to the NRA from having Lee desposed.

The deposition must take place within the next 30 days, it can be for up to seven hours, and it will be limited to the new facts and circumstances that the NY AG’s motion identified.

Given the contradictions between what Lee said in his earlier depositions to both the NY AG and the Bankruptcy Court and what he has posted on social media, this will be interesting. The former directors that I contacted about Lee’s assertions in his affidavit were in agreement he never challenged the NRA’s leadership nor encouraged others to do so.

You Are On Your Own

Michael Bane constantly reminds his listeners that in times of unrest or natural disasters that “you are on your own.” Reliance on police or emergency services to save you can be futile. Many Israeli civilians have just learned that fact. The Times of Israel estimates that the death toll from the Hamas terror attacks this weekend has reached 800 with many more wounded. If you were to scale that number up in the United States like blogger Cdr Salamander did, the number would approach 25,000 in a day.

IDF soldier next to dead civilians [Tsafrir Abayov/AP Photo] from Al Jezeera

We often think that Israel is an armed country. We have all seen the pictures of off-duty IDF women carrying their issued M-16s. The reality is much different. It is estimated that only 2.5% of Israeli civilians have gun permits. Those permits allow them one firearm and 50 cartridges.

As Stephen Gutowski of The Reload reports, this crisis has forced the government to relax the requirements.

Israeli Minister of National Security Itamar Ben-Gvir announced on Sunday he has ordered officials responsible for issuing gun licenses to broaden its standards. As the death toll inflicted by terror group Hamas grew to over 600, Ben-Gvir said he wants more Israelis to be able to legally arm themselves.

“Today I directed the Firearms Licensing Division to go on an emergency operation in order to allow as many citizens as possible to arm themselves,” he posted, according to a Google translation. “The plan will take effect within 24 hours.”

Ben-Gvir also increased the amount of ammo that one can have from 50 rounds to 100 rounds. To my mind, both amounts are insignificant when faced with terrorists armed with full-auto AK-47s.

Tom Gresham on his Sunday Gun Talk Radio broadcast devoted time to the attack on Israel and its people by suggesting an “imagination exercise”.

While there is no magazine in my ready AR-15, this is what is next to the AR along with a ready bag with more filled magazines and a first aid kit. In retrospect, I think I need to add a set of shooting muffs to the setup.

I can’t say my idea is original. I got it from author Matt Bracken who first wrote about how to make duplexed magazines in 2010. I modified mine a bit from his in that I used a piece of dowel instead of a pencil for the spreader and I didn’t fill the space in between with silicone caulk. If you decide to make your own, use GI-type metal magazines. I think mine were either C-Products or D&H. P-Mags just won’t work for this. You could just get the 60-round drum mag from Magpul but the duplexed mag is a lot cheaper and works just as well.

I don’t expect to be attacked by Hamas, Hezbollah, or Mexican drug cartels. But then again neither did most of the Israeli citizens who were killed or kidnapped this past weekend. That said, home invasions with multiple attackers are on the rise. Being prepared doesn’t mean you are paranoid. It just means you are prepared for something you hope will never happen. If you are prepared, then it will be one less thing to have to worry about.

Goodbye, Illinois; Hello, South Carolina!

Manticore Arms is relocating from Illinois to South Carolina. Currently located in Elburn, a village in Kane County just west of Chicago, they will be moving to North Charleston, South Carolina.

From a popup on their website:

Manticore Arms is MOVING!

We are Relocating to 7300 Peppermill Parkway, North Charleston, SC 29418. All orders placed after Thursday October 12th will be packed and shipped after we resume operations in our new location. We estimate shipping to resume Tuesday, October 24th. ORDERS PLACED BETWEEN THESE DATES WILL NOT SHIP UNTIL AT LEAST OCTOBER 24TH.

Manticore is a combination design firm and OEM manufacturer. They manufacture after-market parts for a number of firearms as well as providing design work for other firearm companies.

Their email announcing the move says they are moving to “much more gun friendly state!”. I would agree.

It also looks like the new building will also be larger as well as solely dedicated to Manticore Arms.

Here is their old location in Elburn where the building was shared with a number of other companies.

I hope the move goes smoothly for them and welcome to the Carolinas.

Willes Lee Is Balking On Supplemental Deposition

Now that the New York Attorney General’s Office is requesting a supplemental deposition from Willes Lee due to his social media posts, he is balking. This past Friday, September 29th, Sarah Rogers of Brewer, Attorneys and Counselors, filed a “Memorandum of Law in Opposition” to the state’s motion to compel further testimony from Lee. She included a number of exhibits with this filing including an affidavit from Lee. I should note that Rogers represents the NRA including Lee as a member of the Board of Directors.

The Memorandum of Law in Opposition asserts two main issues. First, it is asserted that the NYAG has failed to show “unusual and unanticipated circumstances” within the meaning of the rules of the court. Second, Rogers says that the NYAG would not suffer “substantial prejudice” if they did not have the supplemental deposition from Lee. Rather, she says it is the NRA and its attorneys who would suffer as it impairs their pretrial preparation especially with intervening holidays. I presume she means Thanksgiving, Hannukah, and Christmas but not Halloween.

The majority of the Memorandum is devoted to the first issue. They assert that Lee’s postings are nothing unusual and that he has not suffered any retaliation from the NRA’s leadership. Moreover, even if Lee’s posting provide somewhat contradictory or inconsistent information from his prior depositions, they say this is not grounds to allow a “post-note of issue” supplemental deposition. They then say differences of opinion within a 76-member board are not unusual and are par for the course. The NRA says that if the Attorney General’s Office wishes to question Lee about his postings, then do it during cross-examination at trial.

So while the arguments by the NRA’s attorneys in response to the motion of the Attorney General’s Office are on interpretations of law, I find the affidavit filed by Willes Lee to be of greater interest. He says he is an unpaid volunteer and that a supplemental deposition would place “an unreasonable burden on my personal and professional schedule.” I’m not sure whether a deposition legally could be done by Zoom or WebEx but will note this court has already had hearings using such electronic means.

I found Paragraph Five of the affidavit to be most interesting.

Moreover, contrary to the NYAG’s motion, my recent social media posts are not “unusual.” In fact, ever since first joining the NRA Board, I have raised questions and posed challenges to the NRA’s leadership, and urged other directors to do the same in the service of the NRA’s members. And since I began posting my “challenges” in a public forum, not a single member of the NRA leadership has tried to silence me.

Given the assertions of Lee that he raised questions and challenges to the leadership as well as urged others to do so were at odds with what I understood, I sought out a number of former NRA directors who served on the Board during this period for their impressions. I sent them a copy of the affidavit and asked if the assertions in Paragraph Five correlated with what they saw and heard. The responses I got cast serious doubt on Lee’s assertions.

One director said, ” I still can’t understand how anybody has taken his self-righteous reversal seriously.  He WAS the cabal. He enabled the CABAL.”

Another director who I asked if Lee had done as he said he did responded, “Nope. I only saw him as a cheerleader for the establishment.” A third director said, “If he ever did anything in the way of resistance to their “plans” it was not in my sight.”

Finally, there is this from a fourth director, “Willis never spoke out at any time on any issue ever! Even during the contentious meeting where the BOD had to ratify the bankruptcy filing after the fact, he sat at the head table like a stone.” He went on to add, “Willis was complicit in his silence and bears as much responsibility in the wrong doing as Charles Cotton because he was on the SLC and did not oppose anything that had occurred. It is rich, that after he was removed as an officer, suddenly he found so much wrong doing.”

While the NRA certainly doesn’t wish that Lee be deposed again, I would wager house money that many of the “Friends of Wayne” would cheerfully throw him under the bus after his spate of social media posts. They would agree with the former directors that Lee never challenged the leadership nor encouraged others to do so. I do understand why Lee doesn’t wish to be re-deposed. His social media rants are not under oath unlike his prior depositions. He could be accused of being a hypocrite but perjury would remain off the table. A supplemental deposition under oath might change things along those lines.

Mark Smith Of Four Boxes Diner On Duncan V. Bonta Stay

Second Amendment attorney, author, and blogger Mark Smith just published an analysis of the questions raised by how the 9th Circuit is handling the emergency stay in Duncan v. Bonta. I discussed the nine page ruling in my previous post and the concerns of Judges Butamay and VanDyke. Smith, however, goes right to the rules for how the 9th Circuit is supposed to handle emergency motions like the one from California. The 9th Circuit has two panels comprised of three judges each who rotate on a monthly basis to handle these situations. Until just recently, the names of these judges would have been published on the court’s website.

Smith goes into much more detail in the 12 minute video below. He raises some very good questions and it would be very interesting to know just who were the judges that should have been assigned to this case.

9th Circuit – Rules For You But Not For Us

After Judge Benitez ruled against the State of California on their magazine ban in Duncan v. Bonta, the state filed an emergency motion for a stay pending appeal with the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. Normally this would have gone to a three judge panel for adjudication. But then again this is the 9th Circuit we are talking about.

Instead it is going to the original en banc panel as a “comeback” which they then granted a temporary stay of Judge Benitez’s ruling. This is the same panel that had ruled against Duncan in 2021. It was appealed to the Supreme Court. After they ruled on Bruen, the 9th Circuit ruling was vacated and the case was remanded to them for proceedings consistent with that decision. They punted it to the District Court, Judge Benitez ruled in favor of Duncan again, and now it is back in the 9th Circuit.

The en banc panel granted the emergency motion for a stay pending appeal. As the dissents make clear, this was highly unusual. Judge Patrick Bumatay said the 9th Circuit should have handled this like any other appeal but didn’t because it involved the Second Amendment. He went on to say that to his knowledge, “no en banc panel of this court has ever handled an emergency administrative stay motion as an initial matter.”

The dissent by Judge Lawrence VanDyke was brutal and should be read in it entirety. Start on page 5 of the decision embedded below. VanDyke had a very unusual background before joining this court. He was the Assistant Solicitor General of Texas and then the Solicitor General for both Montana and Nevada respectively. VanDyke starts off saying he agreed with Judge Bumatay’s concern about the irregularities with the en banc panel taking the case directly. The snark is strong with Judge VanDyke when he said the original panel would only give up control of the case “when it is pried from its cold, dead fingers.”

VanDyke makes the comparison with how the 9th Circuit handles this case with how many courts handled abortion cases pre-Dobbs. The normal rules were tossed out along with the norms of decision making. He called it “abortion distortion” and says the 9th Circuit suffers from the same malady with regard to Second Amendment cases.

Every court has its own rules including deadlines for when an appeal can be filed or an appeals court judge can request an en banc review of the original three judge panel’s decision. Everyone is supposed to follow these rules. That is except the 9th Circuit with regard to 2A cases. After the original three judge panel found in favor of Duncan in 2020, a 9th Circuit judge made the request for an en banc review. That is allowed under the rules but there are deadlines and the deadline for making the request was missed. As VanDyke notes, either the case should have stopped there or the entire court should have made the decision to change the deadline. Neither was done and a backdoor agreement was reached to bring up Duncan to the en banc panel. This was denied to two other cases including one involving the death penalty.

Judge VanDyke said the process used was illegitimate from the start and I would agree. We as a nation are supposed to operate under the rule of law. However, when the rules are freely ignored by the 9th Circuit, or any court for matter, in order to get to the outcome that is desired then the whole concept of the rule of law is brought into question.

H/T Todd V.

SCI Sues Education Dept; Congress Passes HR5110

Safari Club International, SCI Bowhunters West Michigan Chapter, and Sportsmen’s Alliance filed suit of September 14th against Sec. Miguel Cardona and the US Department of Education. The suit was brought over the Department of Education’s interpretation of the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act (sic) and how it denied funding of hunter education and archery programs. The groups had warned of their intent to sue in a Notice filed with the department a month ago. Earlier this month, a number of senators, both Democrats and Republicans including some that were sponsors of the BSCA, say that the department is misinterpreting the law.

The lawsuit is asking for declaratory and injunctive relief. The plaintiffs allege that the Department of Education has misinterpreted the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act (sic) and Congressional intent. The “Defunding Policy” violates the Administrative Procedures Act because the interpretation is “arbitrary and capricious”. Further, it violates the APA because the Department of Education failed to provide notice and a comment period in violation of the APA. SCI and the other plaintiffs are asking the court to declare the department’s actions a violation of the APA, to restore ESEA funding to hunter education and archery programs, and to enjoin the enforcement of the Defunding Policy.

As of now, this is still an ongoing lawsuit but Congressional action yesterday may have mooted this lawsuit. The House passed HR 5110, Protecting Hunting Heritage and Education Act, on a 424-1 roll call vote on TuesdayThe lone dissenter was Rep. Veronica Escobar (D-TX). Yesterday, it passed the Senate on unanimous consent voice vote. It has now been sent to President Biden for his signature. Given the vote totals, I doubt even he would veto the bill.

The text of the bill is very simple. Section 2 of the bill states it is the clarification on the use of Federal education funds for certain weapons and related training.

Section 8526(7) of the Elementary and Secondary Education Act of 1965 (20 U.S.C. 7906(7)) is amended by inserting “, except that this paragraph shall not apply to the use of funds under this Act for activities carried out under programs authorized by this Act that are otherwise permissible under such programs and that provide students with educational instruction or educational enrichment activities, such as archery, hunting, other shooting sports, or culinary arts” before the period at the end.

SCI CEO W. Laird Hamberlin said of the passage, “In an era of partisanship and divided government, the Protecting Hunting Heritage and Education Act is a rare but welcome example of government operating as it should: to serve people, not remote bureaucrats in Washington.”

Todd Adkins, VP for Government Affairs, of co-plaintiff Sportsmens’ Alliance added, ““We’re happy to see Congress come together and wholly reject the Biden administration’s misinterpretation of the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act. It’s something that never should have happened, which is why we took the step of filing a lawsuit to protect our outdoor heritage should congress have failed to act.”

Finally, Jeff Crane, president and CEO of the Congressional Sportsmens’ Foundation, added after thanking Rep. Mark Green (R-TN) and Rep. Richard Hudson (R-NC) for their sponsorship of HR 5110, “It is encouraging to see Congress move quickly to restore ESEA funding for these programs, a clear sign that hunting, fishing, and other sporting traditions remain a non-partisan issue.”

I hate to disagree with Mr. Crane but I think there are a number of leftists in Congress who do not see hunting and even fishing as a non-partisan issue. There is too much money being funneled their way from groups like the Humane Society of the US for it to remain a non-partisan issue.

Enablers!

I must have quite a number of enablers among my friends and acquaintances.

First, I was pondering whether to renew my Curios and Relics FFL. I’ve held the license since 1996 and it due for renewal. The pro’s and the con’s made renewing it a toss-up.

On the plus side, while the flood of milsurps from the 90s and early 2000s has dried up, more and more sporting rifles are becoming eligible. The FFL allows me to have eligible firearms shipped directly to my home and I don’t have to pay a transfer fee to an 01 FFL. Further, if I decide to thin out the herd, it will facilitate shipping the firearm to a new owner. Finally, as the Complementary Spouse reminded me, it is only $30 for three years. One argument against renewal meant I could destroy my A&D Bound Book. Unlike a regular dealer, I don’t have to submit my records to the ATF. The other was that I just don’t use it that much anymore.

I put a note up on the C&R FFL mailing list and did get some good advice. The first argument for renewal was that the cost of just one transfer fee paid for the license. The second, from someone who had let his license lapse and then reapplied for it, was that it was harder for the ATF to deny a renewal than to deny a new application. I think this given the Biden Administration’s hold on the ATF is what really convinced me. Thus, my renewal application as well as my notification letter to my local chief LEO went in the mail this morning.

Second, I was undecided if I could make the SHOT Show work in my schedule. While I am now retired from day job and don’t have to worry about missing work, the schedule can still get crowded. I have already planned to attend the Dallas Safari Club Convention and the Safari Club International Convention. The former is being held January 11th-14th while the latter is January 31st- February 3rd. The Complementary Spouse and I had planned to drive to Dallas for the DSC Convention which is a 2-day drive each way. The SHOT Show, if you include Industry Day at the Range, runs from January 22nd through January 26th. I would barely be back from Las Vegas before we hit the road for Nashville and the SCI Convention.

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I’m not sure my next move was the smartest thing to do but I posted a query on Facebook asking for advice. And advice I got!

Yehuda reminded me that Southwest was having a sale on airfares. Amanda said I’d have FOMO (fear of missing out) if I didn’t come. Ace asked if I was kidding. Rob said it was the social event of the season. Kat wondered why anyone would want to go to Industry Day (it can be a zoo). And Michael was more interested in the fact that I was going to South Africa next June.

The bottom line is that I booked my flight on Southwest (which will disappoint my brother-in-law who is a retired Delta captain) and it was the cheapest I’ve ever seen it. I booked a room at the Flamingo at what seemed an Off the Strip price.

Going or not going was never an issue of cost but getting these bargains certainly helped make my decision. I think missing the Gun Rights Policy Conference this fall and having to miss the NRA Annual Meeting next May also weighed on me. I’ve made a lot of great friends over the years in the gun culture and I like seeing them face to face at events.

All I can say now is that January 2024 is going to be one busy month but it will be worth it.

2024 NRA Board Nominations

I received a copy of the NRA Nominating Committee’s list of official nominations for the 2024 Board of Directors election this evening. I cannot say I’m surprised by who is nominated.

There are 28 people nominated for the Board of Directors. Out of these 28 nominees, there are only three who would be new to the Board while the remaining 25 are current directors. Moreover, to illustrate how it is the same people nominated year after year, 23 out of the 25 were also nominated three years ago in 2021. Charles Beers and Rick Ector, current board members, were both first elected in 2023.

The three new nominees are Craig Haggard of Indiana, Susannah Warner Kipke of Maryland, and Gina Roberts of California New Mexico.

Haggard is a Representative in the Indiana House of Representatives representing District 57. According to his official biography, he is a commercial broker, was the NRA field representative for Indiana for six years, and was an aviator in both the Marines and Indiana Air National Guard.

Kipke is the name plaintiff along with the Maryland State Rifle and Pistol Association in the NRA-sponsored lawsuit challenging the post-Bruen restrictions that the Maryland enacted on carry outside the home. She is the wife of Delegate Nic Kipke who represents Anne Arundel County in the Maryland House of Delegates. In addition, she is the owner of Mrs. Kipke’s Secure Gun Storage in Millersville, MD. LinkedIn has her as the senior regional director for Hillsdale College which I assume is a fundraising position.

Roberts has been the California State Director for the DC Project. Unlike the other two candidates, I have met Gina numerous times at the SHOT Show, NRA Annual Meeting, and GRPC. I do know she has been active with the San Diego County Gun Owners. According to her Facebook posts, she is newly employed with Spaceport America, Virgin Galactic’s Gateway to Space, in New Mexico.

Below is the complete list of nominations from the NRA Nominating Committee.

Microstamping – Myth Vs. Reality

The gun control industry would have you believe that a code “microstamped” on the head of a firing pin will be at the forefront of crime solving. It is their panacea to “gun violence”.

The Educational Fund to Stop Gun Violence (sic) put together a whole page on microstamping arguing that it ” is a powerful crime-solving tool that can help law enforcement quickly solve gun crimes”. They also assert that it will build trust and prevent gun violence (sic) “within communities most impacted by unsolved shootings and daily gun violence.”

Their page featured this infographic.

You may remember that the state of Maryland thought having a fired piece of brass from every new pistol sold would lead to solved crimes. It was supposed to be the “magic fingerprint”. After spending millions of taxpayers’ dollars over a period of 15 years, Maryland ditched the program without solving one crime. In other words, they bowed to reality and cut their losses.

While the gun control industry and some politicians still hold on to microstamping, the reality is stronger than the myth.

I found this infographic this morning on Reddit and it illustrates the reality of microstamping.

Infographics are powerful tools for conveying ideas and thoughts. To be effective, the information presented does have to be valid. While microstamping sounds good in theory to the uneducated, the reality is that it is a myth being used to promote more gun control.